Better Fuels is a fake company


Guys watch out for this fake company Better Fuels (Pty) Ltd t/a Bio Fuels. It is currently offering distribution opportunities for Bio Fuel in different regions of the country and it is run by a fraudster Philani Cebolenkosi Ntuli who has previously defrauded people for a franchise in the tissue industry.

Report ID: 17106
Crime Category: Fraud
Province: KwaZulu/Natal
City/Town: DURBAN
Suburb:
Address: 5 Signal Road, Point Waterfront, Durban
Crime Date/Time: 21 Apr 2017, 12:04 PM
Reported By: rudi106069
Reported Date: 24 Apr 2017, 13:04 PM
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  • Rhino126995 19 Nov 2018, 10:58 AM

    I dont know if this is the same company but I want in on this conversation because I am also looking at taking advantage of such an opportunity. The Company Name is SA Fuel Group which is also linked to an account at absa, the holder being BTN Fuel Group.
    I havnt paid anything yet but my ears are on the ground and im picking up bad vibrations. the number is 0764713376, add me to the whatsapp group please as I too want to know if this is for real?

  • sentinel45 11 Nov 2018, 05:19 PM

    i paid the deposit of R2500

    and yes they still changing the dates for applications

    i swear, if this does not end. i am getting th hawks involved in this

  • Sharmaine126944 9 Nov 2018, 12:56 PM

    Hi There,

    I have paid R2,500.00 registration fee. Is this the same person who's company name is "SA Bio Diesel"? He is asking for distribution fee of R15,000.00 now when I came across this website.

  • wawi 19 Oct 2018, 10:49 AM

    I also fell victim to the scam. Paid for licensing distribution in Jan 2017, signed the contract and all.....etc

  • wawi 19 Oct 2018, 10:36 AM

    Hi, please include me to the WhatsApp group- 0648170589

  • Maray 16 Apr 2018, 02:56 PM

    Hi, please add me to the WhatsApp group - 0795661314

  • Ecorcor 16 Apr 2018, 02:22 PM

    Please add me to the whatsapp group
    0832003515

  • Ecorcor 16 Apr 2018, 02:21 PM

    I have bought 2 "distribution licenses"

  • Louis119373 16 Mar 2018, 04:22 PM

    Hi there,

    Please add me to the Whatsup group 081 503 2264
    I was also defrauded by the same guy (company) and share the experience of Danny 108577

  • Russel118198 27 Feb 2018, 10:50 AM

    is this the same gent who's up for murder of Siam Lee, I also have fallen victim to the Better Fuels / Bio Diesel scam.... The latest I heard was that the plant has moved to a factory in westonaria, no answers to email, telephone extra? Any news on any updated info.

  • Charmaine118176 24 Feb 2018, 06:57 AM

    Hi there,

    Please can you add me to the Whatsapp group 0848163890?

    Email address ccvlotman@gmail.com

    We bought 2 "distribution licenses"
    and currently in the same boat as you guys, no responses or any feedback from the company.

    It would be greatly appreciated if you could share with us whatever info you may have and what we can do to help get to the bottom of this.

  • Neels118141 21 Feb 2018, 03:27 PM

    Hi Guys I can only share my best wishes. Sales Solutions RSA Have a few legs of operations.
    1 x Asrielnews Group - Debt Collections
    2 x Fuel on National Grid - Gris Less 7ppm Fuel D7 cleanest you can get. We do offer very reasonable commission/ pricing on Depot Fuel and road fuels.
    Send me a message on 0836601076 or in bulk at neels@maori.co.za enquiries.
    The best way will be to have alternatives in business and secondly to do collections.
    Regards Neels/CJ

  • MrN654 14 Feb 2018, 11:31 AM

    Good morning, Can you please kindly add me to your whatsapp group. 081 514 1186.

  • Danny108577 7 Feb 2018, 07:58 AM

    No answer at any of the telephone numbers I have. I was at their premises in 5 Berry Rd last year when they were still busy to assemble the plant. everything looked legit. Now I have to swallow my words and say sorry guys I was wrong. All e-mails sent to admin and info are coming back as "unable to deliver". Only mails to orders and Mr Ntuli himself are being delivered but no reply since 06 December 2018.

  • Simon116907 2 Feb 2018, 01:26 AM

    please add me on the whats app group.i have paid and all what i have received was a email to confirm they received my applications and it takes about four to five working days. since then nothing cane through. all the provided contact details rings without response, my contacts are 078 2238 667

  • Granz15 25 Jan 2018, 02:24 PM

    Please add me to the WhatsApp group , I have paid for distribution and was allocated eastern free state. 0659978039

  • Channanm 24 Jan 2018, 03:41 PM

    Please add me to the whatsapp group 0718110091
    I also fell victim to this man

  • charl7144 24 Jan 2018, 01:07 PM

    Please Good People, please report all your fraud cases with SAPS open up a case then contact Durban based Private PI Brad Nathanson of Brad Nathanson Investigations he is listed on Facebook as well Brad Nathanson is currently investigating a case of murder against Gift Ntuli who I believe has ties in Better Fuel PTY LTD and buy reading the posts on this website Gift Ntuli has defrauded many people. Brad Nathanson's cell number is also on Facebook should you want to contact him, Brad needs all the evidence he can get to have Gift Ntuli convicted in a court of law, every bit of evidence will help.... Please do the right thing RIP Siam Lee Gift Ntuli will be brought to book

  • Te_bu 22 Jan 2018, 09:15 PM

    Hi Guys I'm also a Victim, I already deposited money my numbers are, 081 350 5572..watsap as well. Please add me to the group

  • Fufu 22 Jan 2018, 06:17 PM

    Guys please add me on the Whatsapp group , this guy dated my friend . 0739643665

  • humz 22 Jan 2018, 11:08 AM

    Hi guys my hubby and I wanted to invest in this and looked at it as a great opportunity, we wanted to do more research on this. please can you add me to the WhatsApp group. +258844807046. I need clarity on whether to go on or stop

  • ECB1971 21 Jan 2018, 11:22 AM

    Hi. WE will not see a cent of our money he was arrested Thursday for the murder of Siam Lee. He is a low life of epic proportions. Just google Siam Lee the photo of his arrest has his face blurred, but the original was not and he has been identified by a few people on our WhatsApp group that it is him. he will appear in court tomorrow (Monday) I am not sure how many WhatsApp groups their are but If you want to join ours you are welcome to message me. And yes the he has relocated, I was at his new site where everything was just laying around, the one reactor is still with the transporters as he was not paying them either. the diesel produced was of inferior quality as well. Allegedly the forklifts he "bought" and never paid either, have been damaged by the use of the diesel. my cell is 0824447530- oh and Macsteel evicted him, and the department of environmental affairs are after him as well.

  • Diane1163 19 Jan 2018, 07:01 PM

    Please add Me 0766059619

  • TTP05 18 Jan 2018, 11:09 AM

    Yes m dead serious, Ntuli admitted to it. I paid and signed the contract, I see Rasto already submitted your number to our whatsapp group. We will unpack there

  • lebo2116695 17 Jan 2018, 04:08 PM

    What...TTP05 r yu serious.? Is there anyone else who have signed the contract..? 073 6246399

  • TTP05 17 Jan 2018, 02:55 PM

    The reactors have been moved, they are no there. There was a complain from neighbours about the smell and now we were told that an update will be send in February 2018

  • lebo2116695 17 Jan 2018, 01:04 PM

    guys please add my numbers on chat group m one of the victims here I thought m the only one worried here...0736246399

  • Kamo2oo5 16 Jan 2018, 02:10 PM

    Any feedback for this year? For something that was supposed to have started to run from May. It's a shock that we don't even get any communication from them since the start of the new year. Last year I made a noise and managed to enter the premises. There is surely something happening. The reactors are there operating. But what with the lack of communication. And to think of it. We are helping this guy to build and open a company with our money. Instead of being shareholders we are just mere "non-distributors". My email address

  • 710018 16 Jan 2018, 03:14 AM

    danny10857 can you give us the correct contact details who we must speak to regarding refunds etc as you seems to be the only one who have a better side of the story

  • webmail 15 Jan 2018, 07:56 PM

    Also is Better Fuel the same company as Diesel South Africa with the Vat Reg No 4580278267

  • webmail 15 Jan 2018, 07:53 PM

    I wanted to invest into this venture but hearing the comments of people no thank you I would rather start something else .

  • Diane1163 12 Jan 2018, 11:53 AM

    Sampee94 please add me using this email diane.fouche1136@gmail.com.
    I was also told I got Western Cape distribution and we met with MD in June. My husband and I have since requested a refund and paperwork was sent through, once we filled in the forms and emailed them back, we have heard nothing from them. I have been calling them dialing on the only number that seems to be connected and I got through once and they transferred me to accounts, them got cut off. This is rediculous.

  • sad123 10 Jan 2018, 09:57 PM

    Can you sampee94 add me as well on using my email for now, sanele.dlamini88@gmail.com

  • ECB71 7 Dec 2017, 04:11 PM

    Danny108577 are you still standing by what you said, because I have been trying to get answers. I invested and was told I had the Bloemfontein distributorship. We even went to the consultation earlier in the year. just before they supposedly moved. Bongi doesn't work there anymore and no one but no answers a phone or emails anymore. One of the numbers go to a fax tone, the other one to a mailbox and no one comes back after numerous messages left and another one doesn't even ring and the only one that rings just rings and rings until it goes dead, is difficult to believe this is not a scam. I have been very patient, they have taken my money cant give clear guidelines on what is actually happening. I have even emailed the MD directly but no response. so if you could perhaps tell me how to get hold of them short of driving to Johannesburg and getting the police involved. If they are not scamming us then they should be forth coming with their investors and be available to questions and keep us up tp date. the only times they responded to my emails it took weeks and then it is always the same info and August is long past for phase one to be up and running. Sampee add me please 0824447530

  • Dakes7 20 Nov 2017, 05:11 PM

    Hi Sampee, please Add me; duncanmi@vodamail.co.za

  • Tumi112147 19 Nov 2017, 12:40 AM

    I was offered a job by Philani Ntuli as his assistant. I was then invited for training only to find out i would be requested to get undressed to show if i could work for him, thought this was a joke till i got kicked out in the middle of nowhere. Later got an sms saying "I do not think we can work together as you are not fit enough for this job" BEWARE OF PHILANI NTULI he is very cruel...

  • sampee94 15 Nov 2017, 02:54 PM

    ive been trying to call phila with no avail cause i had to be refunded my 20 k,i went to germiston on moday they said i should call him sice his the managing director and his the one who does the refunding but his not picking up and not replying my emails and messages so i suggest we team up and head to germiston and demand our refund or else we shut down the company...drop your whatsapp ten i will start a group chat,lets deal with this fraudster

  • Ras. 7 Nov 2017, 12:38 PM

    Hi, can you also give more info.
    Email: rasto.vanstaden@gmail.com

  • Ikee109163 21 Aug 2017, 08:30 PM

    @TTP05 please do share more info my email is isaacchanza303@gmail.com

  • pbland 21 Aug 2017, 01:05 PM

    TTP05, my email is paul@apexisp.co.za

  • TTP05 19 Aug 2017, 11:52 PM

    @pbland can drop your email address I'll then email u my contact details.

  • pbland 18 Aug 2017, 10:02 AM

    I have also paid the application fee. I wanted to know if anyone knows if there are any distributors that are up and running currently? Myself and my business partner are concerned that this could be a scam of sorts.

    And TTP05, could we have a chat, I would like to know what your experience has been so far and we can compare notes

  • Donhenry 8 Aug 2017, 05:34 AM

    Good morning good people,guys i saw this better fuel advert online and i thought i should try but then because of the R5000 application fees and the R20000 registration fees i said to myself let call their office and find more information about this,i called three of their lines several times no answers other line were busy,and then ok let me go drive to their office and check it out,when i got to their i was even allow to enter,the hungry security guy told me no body is allow to enter in that building and i ask why,he told me i must pay the R5000 first before i can set up an appointment or table any of my queries,guy's my point is it doesn't make any sense,this is too gud to be truth,is all plan to extort money from people and i wonder why the company is allow to be open until now,police should go there and arrest the mastermind of this tricks,and there is nothing going on in that building,they just put security guy there,it looks fishy to me,please watch out for this

  • Royster 2 Aug 2017, 10:53 AM

    Also begs the question which I now see they have taken off their website as to what happened to the tyres as they are only talking plastic now. Because of the rEDISA deal going belly up did they rely on that & how much? Also I would check with PETCO SA to see their take on where they will get their feedstock from for the plants & is it competitive enough to compete with plastic recycling in SA

  • Royster 2 Aug 2017, 10:36 AM

    Just to clarify. Biofuels production in SA comes with a 25000 L per month Cap (SARS), otherwise you have to become a Licensed producer & pay RAF & Fuel Levy which knocks the model out the water. If they are planning on making the fuel out of Plastic & Tyres then the Carbon emissions is more than Fossil Fuels. Best question to ask is where are they getting their feedstock from. If you want o see real Biofuels companies that have been around for 10 years then check out www.biogreen.co.za they have partners like Business Partners as well as Impact Amplifier. Real mitigation of climate change.

  • Watch10111 10 Jul 2017, 01:02 AM

    Its a scam people. I can confirm. There are 3 sites with the same logo different company names offerring the same distribution deals. Check out www.betterfuels-biodiesel.com/ and www.btfuels.com/? and google indufules.
    https://smallonlinebusinessopportunity.com/is-indufuels-a-scam-indufuels-review/

  • nandi108700 4 Jul 2017, 04:44 AM

    Hi. How true is this? I was thinking of making the payment tomorrow. Is it really too good to be true? Please share any information.

  • Danny108577 21 Jun 2017, 08:35 AM

    Hi Guys. Please check all your info before you bad mouth a company like Better Fuels. Do yourself a favour and visit thier factory at 5 Berry Road Roodekop in Germiston and seee for yourself. Plant is in assembly phase. Linda Patti Bongi are all on site in their new offices. They answer all my call , emails and concerns. They are aware of these false reports and pists and their laywers are busy tracing the people responsible for spreading these false statements. I've been to the factory on several occasions and all is going according to plan. Be carefull when you mention a person's name and insinuate that the person is a fraud. You can not believe everything you read on the internet or social media. People use any person's name to defraud other people. Go and look at the photos of the right Mr Nthuli from Better Fuels then you'll see it is a different man. I met him personally on several occasions and he is legit. Check with DTI and Dept of Energy as well. Better Fuel is registered at both.

  • Jukes 4 Jun 2017, 07:22 PM

    i saw their ad on the internet. they advertise registration at R10 000 for R150 000 or R10 000 for 15 months. i was interested until i called their offices in Germiston but the phone is constantly busy. The is one company that i know that operates from Eikenhof called Bio Chem.

  • Barrysta 30 May 2017, 02:58 PM

    I work in finance and just spoke to a guy who wanted to borrow R25 000 which would be paid to Better Fuels (Pty) Ltd as a "registration fee".
    If only he'd done a Google search. Fortunately, I alerted him, thanks to this post.
    Well done!

  • jayvee 30 May 2017, 12:05 PM

    I was was also interested in this franchise, thanks to Google and finding you guys. Its too good to be true. There isn't much details aboutbthe company, its directors and clients. If you are required to pay R15k, why the current forms I have says pay R10k?
    Look at the company logo of INDU fuels that eas also created

    http://smallonlinebusinessopportunity.com/is-indufuels-a-scam-indufuels-review/

  • SedaAdvisor 19 May 2017, 10:06 AM

    Hello Rudi and Participants
    On my desk is a presentation document of the said company and an entrepreneur wanting assistant from Government based on this and more that was shared by Rudi. The unfortunate this is that I was in the renewable space before and question the sheer volumes that would be transported and the amount of waste that would need be housed to produce this fuel for the number of distributors. It's pure madness. Bio-fuel are by-products and why sent plastic to them whereas you can convert it in your backyard and supply to the "client"?

    Thanks for raising this awareness. If you have spent money - rather stop and cut your loses.

  • TTP05 7 May 2017, 10:02 AM

    @710018 can you please give us clarity. Some of us we have paid registration fees and we have been getting updates of the new reactor that will be put up next month to produce this diesel. Just enlighten us as how did u come to that conclusion. Thank you.

  • 710018 5 May 2017, 11:11 PM

    Guys please do not try to invest in this I was nearly taken for a ride about buying the shares it is a big scam

  • steynf 2 May 2017, 07:45 AM

    Hi
    I am also thinking of invest in the company where can I find out more or does any body give me more information.

  • rudi106069 1 May 2017, 09:11 PM

    @Musa, I suggest before you sign the contract and make further payment you should request the list of the clients they will assign to you. Call them and ask if this is legit and go to their premises to confirm their businesses.

  • rudi106069 1 May 2017, 09:05 PM

    The director of the company, Philani Ntuli, has been associated with defrauding other people previously. If you google him, you will see how he has defrauded other people.

    Things that seem fishy to me:
    1. Why is the company requesting money upfront? If it is a reputable company, they would scan their applicants and finalize the numbers of applicants according to regional distributors before requesting money. By the time people realise its a scam, they would've lost their 15k and thats too late.
    2. The company says they will always be 30% cheaper than diesel. However they are promising R2.50 to distributors regardless of price fluctuations of diesel. Now thats an unfair deal because they could be making more money as the price of diesel increases.
    3. The are other small errors in their documents, for me if you are international company your documents must be professional.

    If perhaps people are not convinced that this could be a scam, please go ahead and do research for yourselves about the director and the company.

  • Bernard007 30 Apr 2017, 12:54 PM

    Hi Rudi

    I would like to find out more about this company?

    I was thinking myself to invest in this opportunity but found it a bit skeptical that they wanted a R15000 deposit up front with the application form.

    Can you please assist me with what you experienced?

    Thank you

    Bernard

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